that was clearly the head of the nsa and not the director of national spellens. on the issue of doing surveillance on foreign intelligence leader, specifically the german chancellor, angela merkel, what they testified to today is that this kind of collection, including listening in on the telephone calls of foreign leaders, is a bedrock principle of intelligence and has been for decades, and that this is information was clearly understood by the white house, by the national security council staff, and also by people who sit on the congressional intelligence committees, which raises questions about the statements by senator feinstein, who leads the senate intelligence committee, she seemed to be unaware or was not fully briefed on the scope of these surveillance programs. >> what about the talk of possible changes in policy? >> well, probably a half dozen proposals now on the table. if i was going to break them down very simply, they sort of fall into two baskets. one really advocates taking this collection of phone records and rather than having the u.s. governme